{"id":94064,"date":"2024-12-02T13:57:06","date_gmt":"2024-12-02T21:57:06","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/portal.bluetogold.com\/?p=94064"},"modified":"2026-09-17T08:45:21","modified_gmt":"2026-09-17T15:45:21","slug":"when-does-miranda-apply-over-the-phone","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/portal.bluetogold.com\/?p=94064","title":{"rendered":"When Does Miranda Apply Over the Phone?"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><em>Another roadside chat, recorded at the IACP conference in Boston in 2024. This officer is a lieutenant with the Department of Veterans Affairs, and he asked about calling a suspect over the telephone to inquire whether they committed a suspected crime.<\/em><\/p>\n<h2>Do you have to read Miranda when you interview a suspect over the phone?<\/h2>\n<p>So you want to talk to a suspect about a crime, but you want to do it over the phone. Do you have to read them <a href=\"https:\/\/portal.bluetogold.com\/when-is-miranda-required\/\">Miranda<\/a>, or are there any Miranda issues applicable in that scenario?<\/p>\n<p>So he says, all right, so calling a suspect over the telephone and inquire if they committed a suspected crime or not. So if the officer alleges that the suspect maybe committed a crime, is asking things that could elicit an incriminating response, is there a Miranda issue here? What would be the best practice for telephone interviews, and what is the court&#8217;s opinion as to this evidence?<\/p>\n<p>Well, I definitely got your answer, and actually a pretty easy answer. No Miranda is required unless that person happens to be locked up in a jail and you&#8217;re calling them over the phone. That&#8217;s like the only time that Miranda is going to be implicated.<\/p>\n<h2>What are the three things that make Miranda required?<\/h2>\n<p>I want you to remember the three things about when Miranda is required.<\/p>\n<p>Number one is the person has to be in <a href=\"https:\/\/portal.bluetogold.com\/how-to-fix-a-miranda-mistake\/\">custody<\/a>. They have to be in custody, arrest or arrest-like custody. Either formal custody, or the level of custody has to be so high that it&#8217;s basically in line with a formal arrest. So that leaves out our traffic stops, our DUI investigations, our investigative detentions. Those are not custody for the most part.<\/p>\n<p>The second thing is asking incriminating questions. That&#8217;s what&#8217;s happening here, so check out the box on that one.<\/p>\n<p>And the third thing is a known police officer. I call this the Perkins rule, Illinois versus Perkins, where the person has to know that you are working for the government. Well, we definitely have that here. Hey, I&#8217;m with the VA, I&#8217;m investigating what you did at the hospital while you&#8217;re getting your care.<\/p>\n<p>So we have two out of three, but you need all three in order to have a Miranda issue. Because we have no in custody, we do not have Miranda.<\/p>\n<h2>Should you read Miranda to a suspect sitting at home in their pajamas?<\/h2>\n<p>Now I got to tell you, I have seen officers read Miranda over the phone when that suspect is in their jammies at their house. And I got to tell you, I&#8217;m sorry, but I did laugh. And it&#8217;s comical, because it&#8217;s like, why are you doing that? I&#8217;m not laughing at you, I&#8217;m laughing with you. Maybe you can laugh with me too. But like, why are you doing that?<\/p>\n<p>Like, clearly they&#8217;re not even remotely detained. Even if you&#8217;re like, you better not hang up that phone on me, I mean, they can just hang up the phone. A reasonable person knows that they have that option.<\/p>\n<p>So don&#8217;t do it. And if you do it, all you&#8217;re doing is creating that opportunity, you&#8217;re opening up the door for them not to talk to you.<\/p>\n<h2>Are there any court cases on Miranda during a phone call?<\/h2>\n<p>So the cases on this do not involve people at homes, because how do you litigate such an obvious answer? But we do have cases about people in jail. So there&#8217;s your answer.<\/p>\n<p>Don&#8217;t read Miranda to people at home. Try to get them to open up themselves, get a confession. And yes, I said get a confession, as the US Supreme Court has said confessions are good for society. It is good when people come clean about their sins, their criminal activity.<\/p>\n<p>Until next time my friends, you stay safe.<\/p>\n<h2>The short version<\/h2>\n<ul>\n<li>No Miranda is required unless that person happens to be locked up in a jail and you&#8217;re calling them over the phone.<\/li>\n<li>Number one is the person has to be in custody, arrest or arrest-like custody. That leaves out our traffic stops, our DUI investigations, our investigative detentions.<\/li>\n<li>The second thing is asking incriminating questions.<\/li>\n<li>The third thing is a known police officer. I call this the Perkins rule, Illinois versus Perkins, where the person has to know that you are working for the government.<\/li>\n<li>You need all three in order to have a Miranda issue. Because we have no in custody, we do not have Miranda.<\/li>\n<li>Clearly they&#8217;re not even remotely detained. They can just hang up the phone. A reasonable person knows that they have that option.<\/li>\n<li>If you do it, all you&#8217;re doing is creating that opportunity, you&#8217;re opening up the door for them not to talk to you.<\/li>\n<li>The cases on this do not involve people at homes, because how do you litigate such an obvious answer?<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<h2>Related from Blue to Gold<\/h2>\n<ul>\n<li><a href=\"https:\/\/portal.bluetogold.com\/heres-a-thought-no-more-miranda-gift-bags\/\">Here\u2019s a Thought\u2026 No More Miranda Gift Bags<\/a><\/li>\n<li><a href=\"https:\/\/portal.bluetogold.com\/when-is-miranda-required\/\">When Is Miranda Required?<\/a><\/li>\n<li><a href=\"https:\/\/portal.bluetogold.com\/undercover-operations-and-the-sixth-amendment\/\">Undercover Operations and the Sixth Amendment<\/a><\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<p><em>This article is an edited transcript of <a href=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/watch?v=pIaRAHKOc3I\">Roadside Chat Ep. #721<\/a>. It is legal training, not legal advice. Check your state law and your agency policy, because both can be more restrictive than the Fourth Amendment.<\/em><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Another roadside chat, recorded at the IACP conference in Boston in 2024. This officer is a lieutenant with the Department of Veterans Affairs, and he asked about calling a suspect over the telephone to inquire whether they committed a suspected crime. Do you have to read Miranda when you interview a suspect over the phone? 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