{"id":7546,"date":"2023-10-27T15:39:49","date_gmt":"2023-10-27T15:39:49","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/portal.bluetogold.com\/?p=7546"},"modified":"2026-09-17T06:41:08","modified_gmt":"2026-09-17T13:41:08","slug":"searching-passengers-for-marijuana","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/portal.bluetogold.com\/?p=7546","title":{"rendered":"Searching Passengers for Marijuana"},"content":{"rendered":"<p class=\"\">Today we are going to answer a question that a lot of you have on your mind. \u00a0<strong>Can you search a vehicle\u2019s passenger for marijuana? <\/strong><\/p>\n<p class=\"\">And the answer is: <strong>probably. <\/strong>\u00a0However, I have to go into some legal reasoning here because the answer is really not that clear.\u00a0 There are two key cases I want you to know about before we dive into a little more discussion about the marijuana issue and what the Supreme Court has told us about passengers.<\/p>\n<p class=\"\">In one case, back in the 1940s, the US Supreme Court said that if you have <a href=\"https:\/\/portal.bluetogold.com\/what-is-probable-cause\/\">probable cause<\/a> for the vehicle, that there&#8217;s something in the vehicle, it doesn&#8217;t give you an automatic right to search passengers.\u00a0 You have to have a nexus that just makes sense.\u00a0 If you pull over a vehicle, let&#8217;s say it&#8217;s Uber, and you find drugs on the the Uber driver, certainly that would not give you probable cause in and of itself to search some passenger who does not know that Uber driver.<\/p>\n<h2>Is a citation in lieu of arrest the same as an arrest?<\/h2>\n<p class=\"\">The other case, happened in the 1970s.\u00a0 And what happened is that the officer gave the driver a citation for speeding, and then did a <a href=\"https:\/\/portal.bluetogold.com\/search-incident-to-arrest\/\">search incident to arrest<\/a>.\u00a0 Well, the logic here is that a citation is in lieu of arrest. \u00a0You may have you heard that before, right?\u00a0 It&#8217;s like, \u201cI\u2019m kind of\u00a0 arresting you, but you&#8217;re going to be free to go.\u201d<\/p>\n<p class=\"\">I do hear cops saying this, and they&#8217;re kind of taught this way.\u00a0 That&#8217;s old school language from some court cases, but quite frankly, I don&#8217;t see any value in it.<\/p>\n<p class=\"\">If you have an arrestable offense, let&#8217;s say a suspended license; and your state allows you to arrest somebody for a suspended license, but you&#8217;re just going to cite and release them, you get none of the benefits of an arrest.\u00a0 You get no search, you have to be diligent with your time, and so forth.\u00a0 So there&#8217;s no value in saying it&#8217;s an arrest.<\/p>\n<p class=\"\">From our perspective of law enforcement, or maybe even academically, it\u2019s, <em>in lieu of arrest. <\/em>\u00a0Let the prosecutors enjoy that doctrine, if it gives them anything, but for you, it gives you nothing new. \u00a0<strong>You have an arrest or you don\u2019t. <\/strong>\u00a0If you don&#8217;t have an arrest, it&#8217;s treated like a <a href=\"https:\/\/portal.bluetogold.com\/reasonable-suspicion-vs-probable-cause\/\">Terry stop<\/a>, even though you&#8217;re citing the person.<\/p>\n<h2>Can you search a passenger for marijuana without arresting them?<\/h2>\n<p class=\"\"><strong>Now let&#8217;s move into the marijuana discussion.\u00a0 <\/strong>If you have probable cause that a passenger has drugs on them, like marijuana, and you are not intending to arrest them, that&#8217;s where the problem comes in.\u00a0 When you do a search of somebody\u2019s person, and it&#8217;s not for weapons, that is an arrest. \u00a0In other words, if you have a passenger with probable cause that they have drugs in their pocket, you go right into the pocket and pull out the drugs.<\/p>\n<p class=\"\">That type of action is arrest-like, meaning that it needs to be supported by probable cause. And you probably technically arrested them, even though they may not go to jail that day. That is actually not a big deal, the fact that they don&#8217;t go to jail. \u00a0Still, you essentially did a search incident to arrest.\u00a0 That&#8217;s the only exception.<\/p>\n<p class=\"\">We do not have an exception at the Supreme Court level that says if you have probable cause that somebody has evidence on their person; that in and of itself, allows you to search the person. \u00a0For example, you have probable cause that somebody has drugs in their backpack and they&#8217;re walking down the street.\u00a0 Do you have automatic authority to stop the person and search the backpack under some recognized exception to search requirements? \u00a0The answer is <strong>\u201cNo!\u201d<\/strong><\/p>\n<h2>Is a search of a passenger an arrest or is it exigency?<\/h2>\n<p class=\"\">So let&#8217;s go back to the passenger. \u00a0<em>If you are going to search the passenger, it&#8217;s either going to be an arrest or it&#8217;s going to be exigency. <\/em><\/p>\n<p class=\"\">Here&#8217;s what I teach my students.\u00a0 Articulate either one if you&#8217;re going to search a person&#8217;s pockets.\u00a0 You have to have probable cause, right?\u00a0 The driver said something and the passenger said, \u201cYeah, I&#8217;m holding,\u201d and you put your hands in the passenger\u2019s pocket and you pull out a few grams of marijuana.\u00a0 Maybe that&#8217;s a site release, but you should articulate exigency, right?\u00a0 Not necessarily an arrest, but <strong>exigency.<\/strong><\/p>\n<p class=\"\">Do you have time to go get a warrant before getting those drugs out of the person&#8217;s pocket?\u00a0 Probably not.\u00a0 By the time you come back, the guy&#8217;s going to be gone, or you don&#8217;t have the manpower to have somebody sit there and wait with the passenger while you go run to the courthouse.\u00a0 So just articulate exigency.<\/p>\n<p class=\"\">There is another factor.\u00a0 What if the guy knows that you&#8217;re going to go get a warrant, and he has these drugs in his pocket? He could be handcuffed, but he could also probably try to manipulate the drugs, or he could try to take off running.\u00a0 If it&#8217;s a paraphernalia pipe, and it&#8217;s glass, he could fall on it and break it.\u00a0 So that&#8217;s what you should be articulating as exigency for these searches.<\/p>\n<h2>When can you argue search incident to arrest on a pocket search?<\/h2>\n<p class=\"\">Now, on the other hand, if you have probable cause, and you stick your hand in the guy&#8217;s pocket, and you pull out crack cocaine and he&#8217;s gonna take a ride, well, then argue <strong>arrest.<\/strong> because you&#8217;re allowed to do a search incident to arrest even if the search comes right before the arrest.\u00a0 And your mindset doesn\u2019t matter, it&#8217;s just objective reasonableness.\u00a0 So that&#8217;s what&#8217;s going on here.\u00a0 It&#8217;s\u00a0 probably more complicated than you thought.<\/p>\n<p class=\"\">Most states do not have cases directly allowing cops to just to go right into the guy&#8217;s pocket with probable cause for marijuana and grab it out.\u00a0 The only state that I&#8217;ve seen that has this is Colorado.\u00a0 They have a case in point.\u00a0 And it makes it a little easier for those cops to do the job because they can point to a case that tells them they can do it. \u00a0All those other states don&#8217;t have cases in point.<\/p>\n<p class=\"\">I&#8217;m going to reiterate before I end off, if you have probable cause that the passenger has drugs because of your investigation, not just because there are drugs in the vehicle, that means the passengers can be searched.<\/p>\n<h2>What do you tell the judge about why the passenger had drugs?<\/h2>\n<p class=\"\">You have to have the nexus.\u00a0 What would you tell the judge about why you believe the passenger has narcotics?\u00a0 It\u2019s probably not that hard, but you better make that leap first.\u00a0 And then once you have probable cause, articulate one of two things. One, you made the arrest, which would be in the report; or, if you didn&#8217;t arrest them, exigency.\u00a0 You had exigency due to the nature of the evidence, and the circumstances of where the stop was and you just didn&#8217;t have time to go get a warrant.<\/p>\n<p class=\"\">Quite frankly, most of the time prosecutors and defense attorneys, especially when they&#8217;re not arrested, consider these to be very minor crimes that are simply being pled out.\u00a0 But if you&#8217;re asked on the stand, why you did it, I would argue exigency if there was no arrest.\u00a0 I hope I&#8217;ve added some clarity to it.\u00a0 It&#8217;s still not a very crystal clear subject, but I&#8217;m kind of sharing with you what I think the Supreme Court would probably decide.<\/p>\n<h2>Related from Blue to Gold<\/h2>\n<ul>\n<li><a href=\"https:\/\/portal.bluetogold.com\/can-you-search-a-driver-or-passenger-based-on-a-k9-alert-on-a-vehicle\/\">Can You Search a Driver or Passenger Based on a K9 Alert on a Vehicle?<\/a><\/li>\n<li><a href=\"https:\/\/portal.bluetogold.com\/illinois-courts-on-marijuana-odor-and-probable-cause\/\">Illinois Courts on Marijuana Odor and Probable Cause<\/a><\/li>\n<li><a href=\"https:\/\/portal.bluetogold.com\/colorado-courts-on-cannabis-k-9s-and-car-searches\/\">Colorado Courts on Cannabis, K-9s, and Car Searches<\/a><\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<p><em>This article is an edited transcript of <a href=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/watch?v=Yo2DVeB8OAw\">Roadside Chat Ep. #27<\/a>. It is legal training, not legal advice. Check your state law and your agency policy, because both can be more restrictive than the Fourth Amendment.<\/em><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Today we are going to answer a question that a lot of you have on your mind. \u00a0Can you search a vehicle\u2019s passenger for marijuana? And the answer is: probably. \u00a0However, I have to go into some legal reasoning here because the answer is really not that clear.\u00a0 There are two key cases I want [&hellip;]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1007,"featured_media":224485,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"_acf_changed":false,"_price":"","_stock":"","_tribe_ticket_header":"","_tribe_default_ticket_provider":"","_tribe_ticket_capacity":"0","_ticket_start_date":"","_ticket_end_date":"","_tribe_ticket_show_description":"","_tribe_ticket_show_not_going":false,"_tribe_ticket_use_global_stock":"","_tribe_ticket_global_stock_level":"","_global_stock_mode":"","_global_stock_cap":"","_tribe_rsvp_for_event":"","_tribe_ticket_going_count":"","_tribe_ticket_not_going_count":"","_tribe_tickets_list":[],"_tribe_ticket_has_attendee_info_fields":false,"wds_primary_category":110,"footnotes":""},"categories":[110],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-7546","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","has-post-thumbnail","hentry","category-traffic-stops-and-vehicles"],"acf":[],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/portal.bluetogold.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/7546","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/portal.bluetogold.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/portal.bluetogold.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/portal.bluetogold.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/users\/1007"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/portal.bluetogold.com\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcomments&post=7546"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/portal.bluetogold.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/7546\/revisions"}],"wp:featuredmedia":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/portal.bluetogold.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/media\/224485"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/portal.bluetogold.com\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fmedia&parent=7546"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/portal.bluetogold.com\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcategories&post=7546"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/portal.bluetogold.com\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Ftags&post=7546"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}