{"id":7268,"date":"2023-10-26T15:55:13","date_gmt":"2023-10-26T15:55:13","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/portal.bluetogold.com\/?p=7268"},"modified":"2026-09-17T07:03:57","modified_gmt":"2026-09-17T14:03:57","slug":"intertwining-miranda-with-small-talk","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/portal.bluetogold.com\/?p=7268","title":{"rendered":"Can You Mix Small Talk Into Miranda Warnings?"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>Let&#8217;s talk about intertwining <a href=\"https:\/\/portal.bluetogold.com\/when-is-miranda-required\/\">Miranda warnings<\/a> with a little bit of small talk.<\/p>\n<p>This question comes from one of my officers in Southern California.<\/p>\n<p>He says: Anthony, let&#8217;s talk about substantial compliance with Miranda, because in order to have a <a href=\"https:\/\/portal.bluetogold.com\/how-to-fix-a-miranda-mistake\/\">valid waiver<\/a> you have to substantially comply. A student was in a sexual assault investigators class and was told to advise in-custody suspects of the Miranda rights one at a time, and fill in between them with a little bit of small talk.<\/p>\n<p>So for example. Hey Anthony, how are you? Oh that&#8217;s great. Hey, you know you&#8217;ve got the right to remain silent, right? Okay, awesome. How&#8217;s Mom? Glad to hear it. You also know you have the right to have an attorney present before any questioning, you get that right? Cool. Hey, what hobbies do you have?<\/p>\n<p>The officer is asking my opinion of this tactic.<\/p>\n<h2>Is it per se prohibited?<\/h2>\n<p>The first thing is, I don&#8217;t think it&#8217;s per se prohibited.<\/p>\n<p>It&#8217;s a little unorthodox. I&#8217;ve actually never heard of a training class teaching cops to do something like this.<\/p>\n<p>When you have stuff like this, you&#8217;re making case law in a sense. The courts have to decide whether it&#8217;s lawful.<\/p>\n<p>What I do know is that at the end of the day, the substantial compliance requirement is this: can the officer articulate that the person knew their rights and voluntarily waived them?<\/p>\n<p>Well, when you have a conversation with somebody and you intersperse their rights, and especially when you ask them do you understand this. That is the knowing piece.<\/p>\n<p>So I don&#8217;t think it&#8217;s going to be per se prohibited. I also know the U.S. Supreme Court is kind of on a glide path of making things a little easier on Miranda, so I don&#8217;t think they&#8217;d have a per se problem with it either.<\/p>\n<h2>Where it could go wrong<\/h2>\n<p>But we certainly want to be careful if this tactic comes off as softening up the suspect.<\/p>\n<p>If we can get the training materials into court and show that this officer was taught to use this tactic to soften up the suspect, to overcome a person&#8217;s lack of voluntary waiver, clearly that&#8217;s going to be bad.<\/p>\n<p>But if the training materials talk about how this builds rapport, how it de-escalates, then I think we have a fighting chance.<\/p>\n<p>So to me, if I were the judge, I would ask the officer: officer, why are you doing this? And if the officer doesn&#8217;t have a good reason, then I think we have a problem.<\/p>\n<p>But if the officer says rapport building and de-escalation, your honor, then I can understand that.<\/p>\n<h2>One more thing lurking in the background<\/h2>\n<p>We&#8217;re also talking about sexual assault cases here. No judge I know is going to want to suppress a valid confession from a person who commits heinous crimes like that.<\/p>\n<p>So we have that as well. It&#8217;s always lurking in the background.<\/p>\n<p>Anyway, something to keep in mind. I think it&#8217;s an interesting question, and hopefully I&#8217;ve helped just a little bit. Keep the questions coming, and hopefully I&#8217;ve helped you get it right every single time.<\/p>\n<h2>Related from Blue to Gold<\/h2>\n<ul>\n<li><a href=\"https:\/\/portal.bluetogold.com\/ohio-juveniles\/\">Ohio Juveniles<\/a><\/li>\n<li><a href=\"https:\/\/portal.bluetogold.com\/acknowledgement-of-understanding-miranda\/\">Acknowledgement of Understanding Miranda<\/a><\/li>\n<li><a href=\"https:\/\/portal.bluetogold.com\/heres-a-thought-no-more-miranda-gift-bags\/\">Here\u2019s a Thought\u2026 No More Miranda Gift Bags<\/a><\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<p><em>This article is an edited transcript of <a href=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/watch?v=vn70EKKFFos\">Roadside Chat Ep. #400<\/a>. It is legal training, not legal advice. Check your state law and your agency policy, because both can be more restrictive than the Fourth Amendment.<\/em><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>A sexual assault investigators class taught officers to read Miranda one right at a time with chit-chat in between. 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