{"id":224333,"date":"2026-09-15T01:23:05","date_gmt":"2026-09-15T08:23:05","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/portal.bluetogold.com\/unlock-a-car-to-retrieve-lost-or-mislaid-property\/"},"modified":"2026-09-17T06:19:07","modified_gmt":"2026-09-17T13:19:07","slug":"unlock-a-car-to-retrieve-lost-or-mislaid-property","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/portal.bluetogold.com\/?p=224333","title":{"rendered":"Can You Unlock a Car to Retrieve Someone&#8217;s Lost or Mislaid Property?"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><strong><a href=\"https:\/\/portal.bluetogold.com\/instructors\/anthony-bandiero\/\">Anthony Bandiero<\/a><\/strong><br \/>\nAttorney and Senior Legal Instructor, Blue to Gold Law Enforcement Training<\/p>\n<p><em>A question from an officer in Idaho, and the fact pattern is a good one. Two drunk guys leave a bar, argue, and one gets out leaving his phone and wallet in the other guy&#8217;s car. The officer tracked the car to a driveway, saw the property in plain view, and used a lockout kit. The brass was not happy, and neither was the officer with what the brass said he should have done instead.<\/em><\/p>\n<p>Hey guys, it&#8217;s Anthony Bandiero here, senior legal instructor with Blue to Gold Law Enforcement Training, bringing you another roadside chat from the studio. This one I&#8217;m laughing a little bit, because wait to hear the fact pattern. It&#8217;s a little interesting.<\/p>\n<p>So I guess the gist of this question is, can you unlock a vehicle in order to retrieve mislaid or lost property?<\/p>\n<h2>What happened with the phone and the wallet?<\/h2>\n<p>All right, so let&#8217;s go through this fact pattern. It comes from an officer in Idaho.<\/p>\n<p>Two drunk guys at a bar. One of the drunks gets in the car to leave, the other guy hops in the passenger seat to get a ride home. They get into an argument. So the passenger then leaves the car, and then realizes that he left his cell phone and wallet in the car.<\/p>\n<p>Now this is lost or mislaid property. There is no evidence here at all that the driver intentionally took or stole this guy&#8217;s wallet and cell phone.<\/p>\n<p>So the passenger calls the police and says, hey, can you help me try to recover my property? And the cops oblige. They go up to this guy&#8217;s house. They see the car in the driveway. The cop says it&#8217;s just your standard driveway in front of a two-car garage attached to the house. So I can picture that. Let&#8217;s imagine the car is right next to the garage.<\/p>\n<p>They knock on the door, no answer. They try to call the guy, no answer. Now they can actually see in the car, in <a href=\"https:\/\/portal.bluetogold.com\/what-is-plain-view\/\">plain view<\/a>, they can see the wallet and they can see the guy&#8217;s cell phone. They even call the number the guy gave, and guess what starts ringing inside the car.<\/p>\n<p>The cop then used his lockout kit to unlock the car, retrieve the cell phone and the wallet, gave it back to the passenger, and we go from there.<\/p>\n<p>Brass apparently is not too happy on this one. Brass said that the cop should have got a search warrant, and the brass is saying that the car should have been impounded out of the guy&#8217;s driveway, brought back to the police department, and then get the detectives to help. That&#8217;s part of the procedure. Get the detectives to write a warrant for the prosecutor and so forth.<\/p>\n<p>And the officer is asking, what&#8217;s my feedback on all this that went down? It looks like the officer that used the lock kit got into a little bit of trouble on this one.<\/p>\n<p>Who&#8217;s right, who&#8217;s wrong? In my opinion, both are not legally correct.<\/p>\n<h2>Does any exception let you unlock a car for lost property?<\/h2>\n<p>Let&#8217;s start with the lockout kit. That one&#8217;s pretty easy. There is no constitutional authority that I&#8217;m aware of that allows a cop to unlock a car to retrieve lost or mislaid property.<\/p>\n<p>First of all, the <a href=\"https:\/\/portal.bluetogold.com\/what-is-the-motor-vehicle-exception\/\">motor vehicle exception<\/a> doesn&#8217;t apply, because it&#8217;s not probable cause of a crime. So let&#8217;s get that out of the way.<\/p>\n<p>The other one is <a href=\"https:\/\/portal.bluetogold.com\/community-caretaking-and-red-flag-laws\/\">community caretaking<\/a> doesn&#8217;t apply, because community caretaking can apply for dangerous items, to secure those so nobody gets their hands on it. But this is a wallet and a phone. And then the other community caretaking exception is related to the inventory search, but we&#8217;re not lawfully impounding this vehicle, nor can we impound this vehicle, because the guy has done nothing wrong and the vehicle is not evidence.<\/p>\n<h2>Does it matter that the car was parked on the curtilage?<\/h2>\n<p>Another little zinger on this is, where is the car? The car is on this guy&#8217;s curtilage. Most courts are going to determine that the cops are messing with a guy&#8217;s car that is physically right now on curtilage.<\/p>\n<p>But even if the car was on the street, the outcome is not different in my opinion. The cops cannot be forcibly opening people&#8217;s cars in order to grab a mislaid or lost cell phone and wallet.<\/p>\n<h2>Could you get a search warrant for it instead?<\/h2>\n<p>Now alternatively, tow the car and go get a search warrant. I don&#8217;t know, what would a judge give you a search warrant for? There&#8217;s no probable cause. A search warrant has to be based on probable cause. Is there a fair probability that evidence, fruits or instrumentalities of a crime are in that car? The answer is no.<\/p>\n<h2>What should the officer have told the caller?<\/h2>\n<p>So really what the cops in my opinion should have done here is told the passenger, hey, I&#8217;ve got good news for you and some bad news. The good news is your phone and your wallet are absolutely in that car. The bad news is we can&#8217;t help you. This is a civil issue.<\/p>\n<p>The guy&#8217;s done nothing wrong. You left your property in this guy&#8217;s car and now you want it back. Go talk to him tomorrow. Hopefully you guys are on good terms. But if not, it&#8217;s a civil issue. You&#8217;re going to have to go to civil court and potentially sue him for taking your property, because you left it there and he&#8217;s not giving it back. That&#8217;s a civil issue.<\/p>\n<p>So, man, what an interesting one. I can just imagine this guy jimmying the car and helping this guy out. The intention was good, my friends, the intention was good. But the execution was a little faulty. It was a little legally faulty. The cop should not have slim-jimmed that car under these circumstances. So I can understand the department&#8217;s heartburn over that one. That could cause some civil issues.<\/p>\n<p>Don&#8217;t think for one second that when I was a cop I wasn&#8217;t making tons of mistakes. Okay? I&#8217;ve definitely made my fair share of mistakes. So I&#8217;m not making fun of anybody. But at the end of the day, legally, this is not defensible.<\/p>\n<h2>The short version<\/h2>\n<ul>\n<li>&#8220;There is no constitutional authority that I&#8217;m aware of that allows a cop to unlock a car to retrieve lost or mislaid property.&#8221;<\/li>\n<li>The motor vehicle exception is out: &#8220;it&#8217;s not probable cause of a crime.&#8221;<\/li>\n<li>Community caretaking is out. It covers securing dangerous items, &#8220;but this is a wallet and a phone.&#8221; And the inventory branch needs a lawful impound, which you do not have here.<\/li>\n<li>&#8220;The guy has done nothing wrong and the vehicle is not evidence.&#8221;<\/li>\n<li>The car sitting on curtilage makes it worse, &#8220;but even if the car was on the street, the outcome is not different in my opinion.&#8221;<\/li>\n<li>The brass was wrong too. &#8220;What would a judge give you a search warrant for? There&#8217;s no probable cause.&#8221;<\/li>\n<li>The right answer is the hard one: &#8220;The bad news is we can&#8217;t help you. This is a civil issue.&#8221;<\/li>\n<li>&#8220;The intention was good, my friends. But the execution was a little faulty.&#8221;<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<h2>Related from Blue to Gold<\/h2>\n<ul>\n<li><a href=\"https:\/\/portal.bluetogold.com\/breaking-a-car-window-to-retrieve-a-firearm\/\">Breaking a Car Window to Retrieve a Firearm<\/a><\/li>\n<li><a href=\"https:\/\/portal.bluetogold.com\/seize-gun-plain-view-car-community-caretaking\/\">Can Police Seize a Gun in Plain View in a Parked Car Under Community Caretaking?<\/a><\/li>\n<li><a href=\"https:\/\/portal.bluetogold.com\/vehicle-search-on-curtilage\/\">Vehicle Search on Curtilage<\/a><\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<p><em>This article is an edited transcript of <a href=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/watch?v=Mh94b0Tj_3M\">Roadside Chat Ep. #85<\/a>. It is legal training, not legal advice. Check your state law and your agency policy, because both can be more restrictive than the Fourth Amendment.<\/em><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>No exception covers it. Not the motor vehicle exception, not community caretaking, and no judge is signing a warrant. 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